PZ Myers Contradiction

PZ Myers recently wrote a post on his blog. In it he attempts to respond to various accusations as to why Thunderf00t was banned. This caught my attention:

-“How dare you violate Thunderf00t’s right to free speech!” This one is especially ironic, given that it’s made in response to Thunderf00t blithering away loudly and freely on the internet, again.  We’ve done nothing to compromise his ability to express himself. We have said that this organization does not support  his views, and will not give him our space or resources to do so.”

-“You banned Thunderf00t for simply disagreeing with you!” No, we get disagreement all the time…”

Whether you’re a fan of PZ or not, you have to admit this is a contradiction, and a fairly major contradiction. If PZ is so fond of dissent, why did he say “we have said that this organization does not support his vviews, and will  not give him our space or resources to do so.”? That is not something somebody who is particularly fond of dissent would say. Moreover, he claims that Thunderf00t was banned because he joined a network that he “clearly detested” and “immediately launched a campaign to tell everyone to stop talking about subjects he didn’t like.” Now, I agree that Thunderf00t  wasn’t very civil in his posts. But, this directly contradicts what PZ said before about not banning Thunderf00t because he disagreed with some part of feminism, given “we have said that this organization does not support his views, and will not give him our space or  resources to do so.”

Even worse PZ claims this:

“He was allowed to say whatever he wanted. He did say whatever he wanted.  It turned out that what he said was shit, and we were embarrassed to have him here on the network.  So we told him to go say it somewhere else.”

So, Thunderf00t was allowed to say whatever he wanted, but regardless of that he was banned? That’s precisely one reason why many atheists are reluctant to worship the Judaeo-Christian god.  The Judeo-Christian god gives us free will, and has complete knowledge of the consequences of that.  Nevertheless, he sends humans to Hell because they don’t believe in Christianity.

Moreover “Now we’re done. We have been done for a long time. Thunderf00t is not and will not be a part of this network,  and it’s quite clear he doesn’t want to be part of it, except to destroy it. I’ve addressed the complaints of his ignorant  and indignant followers, so I’m putting it to rest — I’ve blocked him on twitter, I’m not reading his blog or watching his videos, so if you want to complain further, do your posturing for Thunderf00t, not me, because I don’t give a damn.”

You know, this reminds me of something.

“The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that in glory and triumph  they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of this pixel on the  scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner. How frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds.  Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the universe, are challenged by this point of pale light.  Our planet is a lonely speck in the great  enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity – in all this vastness – there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere  to save us from ourselves. The Earth is the  only world known, so far, to harbor life. There is nowhere else, at least in the near future, to which our species  could migrate. Visit, yes. Settle, not yet. Like it or not, the Earth is where we make our stand. It has been said that astronomy is a humbling and character -building experience. There is perhaps no better  demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we’ve ever known.”

-Carl Sagan, Pale Blue Dot
Link to PZ’s post: http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2012/08/01/hey-thunderf00t-fans-stuff-it


~ by theuncynic on August 5, 2012.

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